Cut and shut idea... a Fox body shooting brake.

"BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast." (boxerfanatic) 02/11/2014 at 17:15 • Filed to: Fox Body Mustang

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I knew there was a '60's version of a long-roof 2-door Mustang.

But considering the Fairmont Fox-body commonality with Mustang... what about a Fox shooting brake?

If a Mustang front end can fit on a Fairmont or LTD wagon...

What about fitting the back end of that wagon, onto a modified Notchback Mustang?

Imagine cutting the Mustang's body around the rear glass, and down through the rear wheel wells to the floor pan.

Then cut the Fairmont's back end off, using the rear wagon glass, rear hatch and bodywork aft of the rear wheels.

Cut the rear seat bulkhead out of the Mustang, and put in folding rear seats from the hatchback Mustang. Otherwise, if you start with a hatchback, graft the notch-back rear quarter windows and C-pillars onto the body-sides, as the notchback quarter glass suits the aft side wagon windows better.

With standard go-fast Mustang parts, it would be one fast shooting brake 3-door.

This is kind of along the same lines of my previous cut-and-shut mashup idea for a 3-door Subaru GC coupe with two side doors, with the 5-door's rear roof and hatch, and STI guts underneath.

RazoE > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 02/11/2014 at 17:18

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Yes to this. YES TO THIS.

It's a "Porch-uh" > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 02/11/2014 at 17:19

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I'm intrigued. Let us know how it goes!

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > It's a "Porch-uh" 02/11/2014 at 17:22

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I wish I had the money, metal-working skills, and tools to try it, among lots of other ideas.

Two out of three ain't bad, but zero out of three ain't good, and I don't have any of the practical stuff.

I just have the ideas cross my mind...

DatASSun > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 02/11/2014 at 17:25

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me and IDROVEATRUCKONCE got into a small argument the other day or what is and what isnt a shooting brake ... I wonder what the master shootingbreaker would say to this

It's a "Porch-uh" > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 02/11/2014 at 17:28

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Duct tape and bondo will get you far.

Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 02/11/2014 at 17:29

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Any car with the Foxbody platform should work.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > DatASSun 02/11/2014 at 17:32

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A shooting brake is a sport coupe with two side doors, a long roof and a rear hatch, historically, it was a gentleman's performance car that was capable of carrying long guns for hunting (hence shooting... brake is just a smallish wagon, from the legacy of horse-drawn wagons.) A fastback-hatch has a roof much shorter than the car's rear overhang, with a diagonal rear hatch angle, A hatchback has almost no rear overhang, and a hatch very close to the rear seat back.

An Estate Wagon, or Station Wagon, is an automobile or horse-drawn coach for transporting people between a country estate house and a train station or port, or other point of transit... made for more people, and their luggage. In automotive terms, that usually means four side doors, two rows of seats, and a long roof over the cargo area, with a rear hatch.

On cars with a relatively full-length roof and a rear cargo hatch,

4-side doors: station wagon.

2-side doors: shooting brake.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > It's a "Porch-uh" 02/11/2014 at 17:35

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maybe... I don't have a Mustang or a Fairmont wagon to start from... and cutting up someone else's is usually frowned upon by law enforcement.

mycarneverruns87 > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 02/11/2014 at 17:35

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Sounds like a shit load of work to basically get rid of two doors. How about litterly cutting the car in half, adding coupe doors and rear quarter glass and glue it back together? Probably the same amount of work but likely less molding of tricky body lines and windows.

I_AmDeath > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 02/11/2014 at 17:36

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Thanks for answering this. I learnd something!

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > mycarneverruns87 02/11/2014 at 17:46

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Screwing with the B-pillar, which is highly structural, would be WORSE than grafting the rear overhang, and cutting the car completely through in the middle of the wheel-base has a more detrimental effect on structural rigidity, which Fox Mustang isn't exactly a pillar of strength as-is.

Looking at the C-pillar of both the notchback coupe Mustang, and the Fairmont wagon... they line up pretty well. the character line is the same... the fairmont wagon with the Mustang nose shows that the parts line up. the rear wheel wells are pretty much the same.

Other than perhaps lengthening the back part of the trunk floor the floorpan of the Mustang would be pretty much un-changed.

Grafting the Fairmont rear fenders, window-frames, roof, and hatch into the Mustang's rear fenders, and melding the C-pillar together, is not cutting into the structural floor-pan of the car, between the front and rear suspensions, and the structural B-pillar roll-structure, that forms the side door portal.

The rear overhang and roof is mostly a steel enclosure of interior volume. Most of the structure of the floorpan within the wheelbase, and the B-pillar, back to the rear torque boxes and shock mounts, are what hold the car up. Even most of the C-pillar would remain intact, just surface-grafted to the wagon's aft body sides and roof.

V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 02/11/2014 at 18:01

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NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

That Mustmont is HIDEOUS!!!!

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 02/11/2014 at 18:23

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I thought everybody around here liked fast station wagons...

Although the high-cowl hood on the yellow car does make the car look a little odd. The cowl behind the hood looks like a weak point between a higher than stock hood, and the roofline of the car, like it might bend at that point... but that is just a visual effect.

I might have kept it as a Four-eye style, with an 85-86 Mustang nose, and a stock-height hood... and something more subtle and sophisticated than eye-searing yellow.

(now I want to put that flat fairmont front end on a Mustang, with the grille blacked out, and really freak people out...)

There is always the Mustang Ranchero.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 02/11/2014 at 18:24

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I should put this here, to illustrate previous efforts on a shooting brake Mustang.

Adam > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 02/11/2014 at 18:31

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I guess no one here realizes that the FOX platform (Mustang, Fairmont, Futura, LTD LX etc.) you swap the front sheet metal and the dash. FOX Mustang wagons made from Fairmont wagons have been done before. The more squarish nose of a pre 85 fit the body lines better.

The Old Man from Scene 24 > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 02/11/2014 at 18:47

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The side vents came from a Mercury Zephyr.

So what you have here is a Must-phyr. Or a Zephstang. Or possibly a Must-zeph-mont

V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 02/11/2014 at 19:02

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Nothing wrong with a fast station wagon. You NAILED why I dislike this one though.....

I've has the displeasure of seeing those particular brand of hoods in person. They just don't fit the lines of the fox for me. Eye Searing Yellow is point on as well. It's my least favorite color on just about every generation of Mustang. Those vents complete the trifecta.

The red one is much better. Paint the hood to match and ditch those wheels for some stock 10 holes.

AMC/Renauledge > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 02/11/2014 at 19:17

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How do you know it's a Fairmont?

It could be a Zephyr! Or a Granada! Or a Cougar! Or an LTD! Or a Marquis!

All of them had the exact same sheetmetal behind the A-pillar.

AMC/Renauledge > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 02/11/2014 at 19:20

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If you really want a cut-and-shut job, stick a Mustang nose on the front of a Fairmont Futura (or a Capri nose on a Zephyr Z7) and cut out everything behind the B-pillar and between the rear fenders.

mycarneverruns87 > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 02/12/2014 at 10:14

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A simple wrong would have sufficed... I only kid lol.

I thought about it more after I posted and realized more of what would have to be changed. This is why I am not a body guy. I would for sure like to see this done somehow though. You know that it would look good as the Fairmont lines are simple and looks fantastic imo...I almost bought a 78 boxtop once.